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Post by Donny Davis on Jul 15, 2009 1:41:14 GMT -6
"When It Shines Like Gold, You'll Remember Me" ~ The Killers
So gotta love the killers because seriously, that line is perfect on multiple levels. If you couldn't tell since she's at a weird angle, the girl above is Isabel Davis. I have always referred to her as "pockets full of sunshine." Sunshine? Shining Gold? yeah fits perfectly as well as, my characters are, as you know, The Outsiders in reference to the book. Now the most famous quote from the outsiders is "Stay Gold, Ponyboy." So there, Gold? Gold? Works again, lol... even though It hurts my heart, so not lol.
To the point, I have tried with Izzy. I love her, I think she's adorable, I LOVE making her clothes on polyvore, but that's also really all I've done with her recently apart from having her tag along to Dandie. I have only roleplayed her without donny twice since I've made her. In the donny/izzy posts, Donny's muse has dominated and I have to struggle to fit her in as more than dialogue. But none of those are the real reason I'm doing this. The real reason is I can't connect with her. I can talk for her, easily but I never have any clue what she's actually thinking. Happy people are hard to get in the head of. That sounds really bad but it's true. So I am deleting her. And I am soooo sorry to asia, who I have the epicness of Xazzy with. But we hardly ever do anything other than plot with the two and when I do have to post, It's still hard to get in her head anymore. She used to be easy. That first xazzy game, her odd logic was easy but now it's practically impossible and if I didn't have so many characters I MAY have kept her, but I'm at 20, it's not worth it.
BUT that is not the big news. The big news is how I am getting rid of her.
She will be just a side character for awhile, a fair while. It'll be after things seem to have calmed down for my rebel-Siren gang. Now, thing is, the Sirens are an eye for an eye. Hence why the come after Liz, sending Rion to kill her BECAUSE she made sure it looked like she was the only one their. A life for a life. If they had known another human was present, a non-siren? You think her father would have still ordered her to die? No. He would have had them take the other, or as we know him to be, Riley. Orion by not killing her, puts his head on the chopping block too, as do Donny, Izzy and yeah, even Widow. Now, many you know already, but some of you don't, that eventually, guilt from killing Darren Jr. takes over Liz and she confesses to Tony what happened(leaving out Riles of course, until he accidently spills it but that's not the point). Thing is the Sirens cleaned up her mess as to deal with the punishment on their own, meaning the FBI don't have a body, nor do they have any witnesses. There's no evidence of their even being a killing, so he can't charge her for murder. The assults, assult is only a crime if the victim presses charges. No one's coming forward. So she's off according to the law. Orion and Widow and Donny wouldn't but she doesn't say anything about them. After confessing and making up with Coco, Liz is slowly doing better. Orion's staying quiet, by then probably dealing with Fairuza lol. Donny has Dandie/Andigan(sp?) drama but he's okay all in all. Widow's just being her lol and Izzy's the happy little person she always is.
As for why the Siren's are quiet, they rebel sirens of mine just assume they bought her faked death that the Rhodes helped orchestrate. They were wrong. And clever clever Donny thought of this ahead of time so he put a well hidden but not perfectly hidden false trail of a false identity(liz's) heading south before disappearing. This way IF the Sirens found out Liz was alive, they would think she headed south because who in their right mind would stay in the same place right? So two or three more Sirens come down, probably some cousins of Liz and Orion's or something. The track down Izzy because of her soft reputation. The corner her and when she refuses to tell them where Liz is, they kill her. She would have had to know what they were going to do if she said nothing. Plus she knew Darren Sr., the head of the Sirens, would far prefer her dead than Liz. She dies for Liz. The two-three Sirens take a picture of her dead body, and put it in a box face down with a message on the back facing upward, "A Life for A Life. Debt Repaid. S." And they leave it outside Donny and Izzy's apartment. Inside that apartment isn't Donny, he out somewhere, but inside is Liz, Orion and Widow. When they hear someone at the door they assume it's Donny. Orion opens the door and picks up the box left. He goes over to the table and picks up the tag at the top and it's addressed to Liz from the family. Of course that shuts up the petty argument Wid and Liz were in the middle of and they go over. They open the box, see the message, turn it over and see Izzy dead in the street. And then they have to tell Donny when he returns. (I will be typing this whole scene out for the Sirens behind the scenes/memory thread)
I don't want to say her death is opportune, because that sounds heartless but the truth is that Isabel is the only one of the rebel sirens that would effect ALL of them to a huge extent. Liz was a witness to Isabel's molestation and while she got on Liz's nerves, she admired Izzy for being the only purely good heart of the bunch. Orion was in love with her at one point in his past. Widow and her were good friends, she thought Iz was adorable. And Donny, Izzy was the only person in the world who fully understood him.
So obviously this will effect all four remaining sirens, massively and therefore anyone who is plotting with them and anyone who wants to plot with them<3.
• Orion will probably become more loving, try not to waste a minute. (the only healthy turn right away)
• Widow will be deader. she would become cheaper, easier to sleep with and not take the joy in it she used to.
• Liz, I don't know, she's been close to suicide before when kenny died, she was doing better(she'll even have a job at the museum narrating for the planetarium) but she will then see herself as the killer of three people, Kenny because Darren killed him because of ken and her's closeness, Darren Jr., because she pulled the trigger and now Izzy because she died instead of her. As well as Liz feels so much guilt still from Darren and now it's killed Iz too? Liz confesses to Tony because she wants to go to prison, she wants to be punished, and she's off the hook and now because the one goodhearted of the group was dead, the Sirens were letting her off, so I may have a suicide attempt, but I love Liz too much to kill her off, we all know this. I'm thinking maybe a cliff four hours east of VA in Nevada where I once mentioned in a post was Kenny's favorite spot in the world for the view and someone pulls her back just in time or something, I don't know. Overdoes doesn't seem like a way Liz would want to go out and she's had enough guns to last her forever. Maybe suffocation, I do have the pics for that from Dollhouse... hmm have to think.
• Donny, Donny, Donny, Donny... he's not going to be... well. He shares that feeling of vengeance Liz has. Liz will probably talk him out of going and finding who did this, urging him to believe her when she says nothing good will come from it(and she'd know, lol). He would listen to her though, he's not quite as hard headed as she was. But he is angry, bitter and depressed. I had this image of Andie coming over when she hears to see him, him unshaven being all "What do you want?" but letting her in anyways and her coming into a room filled with empty alcohol bottles. Speaking of which, dandie, I was thinking it would happen during an off time. I'm planning on Donny just sort of cutting himself out of the world for awhile, like he locks himself in the apartment he used to spend with Izzy, only comes out to buy liquor, isn't eating, isn't talking to anyone really, except for those he has a soft spot for, Andie, Bea (if erin ever comes back), Widow, Liz. And, here's how you'll know he's in a really bad spot, he's going to smash up all his computers and gadgets.... I know. He'll get better, promise, never be the same though, be a bit stronger, re-buy/steal newer equipment, and a bit closer to just living the life of becoming the world's greatest hacker. He probably won't be quite so much of the health freak he is now either although that's a small detail.
• All in all, I want this to, EVENTUALLY, bond the remaining four of my Sirens. although I can never see Wid and Liz ever hanging out as pals again, they're too different now. But doesn't mean they can't care.
Soo.... Talk To Me<3 Tell me opinions, ideas, anything!! It saddens me, but at the time I really do think this opens up so much for the future and yes, this is the future. Like a couple months in V-side time, because it has to be right when things are getting calm for them as well as at a point where Liz is mentally stable enough. Because the truth is if it happened now, she wouldn't get through it, she'd crack completely.
So yeah... there you have it and thank you ruby for keeping my secret until I had made a decision.
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Post by River Connolly-Sakahrov on Jul 15, 2009 2:02:57 GMT -6
Like I was saying before, we all support you. Except leaving v-side -threatens-. But that isn't happening, and I don't have the money for a plane ticket. So yay for that. This is more me just ranting about nothing, especially because I'm listening to a really bad song and want it to end. -waits for it- Alrightie, it's over. Honestly, I love Gamma Ray to death, but that song bugs me. The end.
First of all - I understand completely. I mean, how couldn't I? I complained in the c-box all last week about my character issues. About how I want to delete like, eight of my characters and start over? Still stands. But that isn't what this is about. Second of all - I love Izzy to absolute bits. Absolutely. She's adorable and a lot of fun to read. Do I get where you're coming from? Of course. I just sit there for hours, having no idea what the hell to write. So, of course I support your decision<3 How couldn't I? You're my girl, after all. And, apart from leaving v-side or knowing something about SPN that I don't ( or something ), I support everything you decide to do. I'm awesome like that. So, another rant. Meh.
It's too bad that Izzy is going, I do admit. She's a great character. But, like I said before, what happens happens. You can't change that. No point in keeping a character you just can't relate with anymore. Me of all people know that. BUT, I have to say, the way you're planning this out is really great. Is great a bad word? Well, you know what I mean. I think it's a brilliant - insensitive asia -_-; - idea. I can see that as a move she would make. And aw, those poor Sirens. They can never catch a break, can they? It's great to see something happening, and how much it will affect the remaining Sirens, which I'll be talking about later. But, I'm proud that you made the exit have a real lasting result.<3
You're right in saying that it opens a lot up for the future. I can see each of their futures so clearly in my head, just how you described it. We'll have to plot with it somehow, with the characters I have plotting with the Sirens. Yes, I decided this. If I decide to keep Xavier around, of course it'll have a huge wave of depression on him, of course. He changed so much just because of her, and look what happens, heh. I have things going around my head, so I won't rant about that here. Yeah, not quite sure what else to say. Should I say something else? 'Cause if I should, tell me and I will. The lovely graphic haunts me. It's gorgeous, but it's so haunting. Which is the point, I guess. Yay for randomness.
I still can't think of the right word. But whatever it is, that's what I am.<33
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Post by Andromeda Wallace on Jul 15, 2009 10:57:57 GMT -6
aw, anna, as we've all told you repeatedly, we shall support you no matter what you decide, so long as you don't ever leave v-side. and aw, izzyy. <3333 i'm pretty sure everyone loves her. how could they not? she's adorable. i loved reading about her, and it'll be sad to see her go. and i can totally understand where you're coming from, it's so hard for me to write for happy people, too. i just don't understand what's going on inside of their heads, haha. but anyway, i think that just seems like a very izzy way for her to go. <333 it'll be so sad. i agree with asia, those poor sirens. i tried to get through this without much ranting, heh. aww, when donny goes into his dark phase, it'll tear andie up so much. it would totally kill her to see him like that. she'd definitely be over at the apartment right after she hears. eep, he's going to smash up his computers? that really is distressing. and oh, i wanted to say that those lyrics seem to just be really perfect for this. plus the killers rock all of our socks off.
this wasn't too word vomitty, was it? <333333333
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Post by Magdelena "Maggie" Corinthos on Jul 15, 2009 12:30:26 GMT -6
hey babe, no problem for keeping the secret. it wasn't mine to tell and i don't like to break trust like that. so any time you wanna share, just let me know xD.
k so i'm pretty much just tossing it out there but if you'd like, maggie wouldn't let donny live in his slump for long. she needs him for work related stuff and she can't have him off his game. and if andie's not in the picture at the time she'd definitely be a little more pushy about him getting back on his feet.
she'll be there for widow of course, since she's one of her only friends and grieving deaths is just part of the deal, and i'm sure j.r. will slip in there some how. maybe he'll yank her out of a bad situation. he'd carry her over his shoulder if he had to, haha.
this was wordier than i'd planned so i'll shush now, but i'm glad you made the decision that works best for you. :]
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Post by maddoxrhodes on Jul 15, 2009 12:59:05 GMT -6
aw izzy.. gosh she is so charming.. this makes me really sad. i just want to say about the liz thing, to contribute.. if she is at the cliff and almost jumps.. maybe coco makes it in time to help? this would definitely make their friendship even stronger. it would be even better if riley was with coco, because they both care so much about liz, and liz just huddles with riley, coco and their love child accidental hot spawn.
WOW.
never thought i'd say those words.
izzy will be missed, and i'm so sorry i never got to roleplay with her. but i know what you mean - you do what you got to do. oh, and with donny.. athena or maddox would totally help him out or something. they'd also feel slightly responsible, because they were a part of the faking death scheme. so yeah.
<3333 this made me sad.
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Post by Daphne Hayes on Jul 15, 2009 13:25:21 GMT -6
oh this was just so sad reading. maybe it was because i was picturing it all going down in my head as you explained. but, i know how hard this must be since i went through that with a trueloves, and i'm going through it atm with chanel and oscar, so i get that.
i think the only one of my characters it would directly effect is of course, riley. though riley never rped with izzy, they lived in hitten, so maybe there were some exchanges and such with donny. or not, up to you. and then there's riley and liz. it's crazy how much he actually cares for liz, so whether riley knew izzy or not, if liz is upset about it, so would riley because that's just the dude he is. and i'm up for anything if you want anything to happen to riz, though riley can never seem to comfort liz at all. but yeah if you like chels' idea, i'm down with that too. <3
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Post by isaaclacroix on Jul 15, 2009 21:40:06 GMT -6
Okay, so I've been here for almost two years, I've known you and your wonderful characters for about two years, and I've liked/absolutely loved them all. Remember when you deleted Mason? Yeah, he was a good character but sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do, and I wasn't all heartbroken about it. With Izzy, though I've never roleplayed with her, it makes me sad to see her go, seriously. I dunno if it was how you wrote it full of brilliant imagery or what but it really broke my heart to see Izzy end like that, but I absolutely know what you mean when you have a hard time getting into happy people's head. Remember Rhys? yeah, he was a happy character I never made because I can't really get into his head like I can with Audrey or Matt or Isaac...I just work better with non-happy characters. Anyways, I think, just like clare, that the way Izzy dies is perfect even though it'll be very tragic.<333
NOW FOR ZEE PLOTTING OF REMAINING SIRENS Okay, we already have some fairion planned out but I think after Izzy's death, Fairuza would be affected too. I think fairuza should be hanging out with the sirens just because she'd get along with widow and with liz... but wid and liz aren't really the buddy-buddy type so they could be this weird oreo with fairuza in the center. And fairuza would absolutely love Izzy immediately upon meeting her just because she's izzy and there is no better explanation other than that she's a pocket full of sunshine. I know that's a paragraph of useless information but I just think Fairuza would only really get along with your sirens... I dunno why, but the inner monologue in my head only really points that way. God, Fairuza is going to be crushed when she gets word of Izzy. Hmmmm, I'm all for some major siren plotting but I think your sirens mostly mesh with Fairuza and Jasper.
HEY SPEAKING OF JASPER! dude, we need to plot him with the rest of the sirens. Like you know how we're thinking him and widow will be close and such so maybe he hears of Izzy's death and he comes to Valkyrie because of it and because of Widow. I think I sent a PM about Jasper and Rion, but I don't remember which account I sent it... I think it was rion's but I dunno.
ANYWHO, I support you with all my vsidely powers in your decision, because you are ten shades of awesome.
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Post by Orion Hughes on Jul 18, 2009 1:33:08 GMT -6
Yay for all the replies<3 Love you all! and thanks for all the support of course but this post will stick to the point and hopefully not be too long because I'm tired lol.
A&A PRODUCTIONS - ASIA DIVISION Yes, I stole that from you<3 And I know<3 Xazzy I will always miss. If you do keep him we should do some epic plots before she dies AND after, like Donny and him finally get along or something. I don't know. It would probably, most definitely effect anything with Donny and Scarlet too. And no, the Sirens will never get a break... it's their curse. And thanks!! I was really proud of that graphic, despite the face its kind of creepy.
FACE of the BEAR - Clare-Bear and Anna-Face unite Because I'm did the plot vid names, lol, because we're badass like that. It's like eye of the tiger but more awesome. I'll never leave v-side, this is to all of you, you're stuck with me!! and back to clare bear, you know we will be doing some major dandie plotting during this. Donny is going to be such a disgruntled person. I had this like poof day dream of him and Andie in the now one person apartment and like I said he's sort of not going to leave the apartment for a while. And she's like trying to help him, she's sort of like shut herself in with him, desperate to try to get him to eat anything, get him to talk to her and she's just sort of trying to help and he's not being helpful and she just got done pushing other people out of the apartment, like Maggie who wants to get his ass back to work and to snap out of it and Andie goes all lionness on her and when she's gone Andie goes into his room where she thinks he's asleep and sits on the side of his bed and actually starts to cry a bit. Donny hears, takes her hand and pulls it over him and they fall asleep cuddling and he wakes up in the morning before her and goes into the kitchen. She wakes up hearing the movement and when she goes in, he made them eggs or something. Obviously he's not all better but it was like a step you know? and it was a cute moment lol.
RUNNA? Anby? *INSERT RPer SHIP NAME HERE* Thank you soooo much for not saying or hinting to anything. I didn't think you would or anything it's just it was a decision really close to my heart so... yeah. Honestly, it would be kind of funny if maggie came over trying to get him to work. It wouldn't help him get better mind you, might make it worse but it would still be funny. She bursts into the apartment telling to get ready to work and to shake out of it, heads straight for his room which used to be computer central and the whole place is empty except for an empty desk, a dresser and a bed. and she's all "what the hell did you do idiot?!" And aww Wid and the Sibs<3 Maybe since wid's always been one to sleep with multiple people, but she used to do it with this obvious joy and intention while afterwards she just becomes dead and tries to get as shitfaced as possible when she's out, Maggie starts getting worried and expresses that to J.R. and they both go to see her and she is completely wasted, they take her back to their place before she does something stupid and while maggie's getting some water or something J.R.'s trying to get Wid to go to bed but she keeps trying to come on to him and while he's saying no(because come on, not like that right?) and she sort of slips up and says why not, it's what everyone's been doing, even her dad, and the word no didn't mean anything to him then, why should she accept JR's no or whatever. Because I realized her dad attacking her happened that past year, and it's not something she'd say to maggie over an email so they wouldn't know, no one does though, wid's ashamed. So then he could go to maggie and be all "did you know?" etc etc... idk where it would go, just small skip in my brain lol.
PURE EPICNESS - Chenna? Anels? yay so I'm so failing at these funky titles asia did. and aww I like that idea of the three of them. Like Liz took Coco to the cliff once just as a friend thing because it's an important place to Liz because of Kenny and Coco's had a hard time lately. Ooo or maybe, because Kenny was killed in a brawl that the police showed up at so the state has his body and no one's going to claim it so they cremated him because ashes are easier to store long term and Tony pulls some strings and gets them to Liz so Liz asks Coco to come with her and she dumps the ashes over the cliff or something. And then Coco like goes over to the apartment to see Liz, not knowing what's happened yet and sees Orion like have a minor break down and asks whats wrong, he tells her, she asks where liz is and he said he didn't know, she took off like ten minutes ago, something about needing to escape. And Coco sort of has that click in her brain so she grabs her car and goes to see riley because she doesn't know if Liz will listen to her and then they go after her or something.
and aww the Rhodes shouldn't feel responsible even a little bit. I love the rhodes though so basically any involvement they want, feel free to toss 'em in.
CALL US A.L. - Anna and Lainey, bitches! that was a lot easier because I'd already done our vid, lol. And aww... Riley has comforted Liz loads, she's just a stubborn bitch and won't let him see it, especially the night she came back from LA, dude carried her out of the shower and let her fall asleep with her head on his lap for gods sake, lol. Riles may make mistakes but at least he's like this really nice guy who always tries to do the right thing. And um... *points to the chels section* I could also see both Coco and Riley half pissed after they yank her back, Like what the hell do you think you're doing leaving us? or something, lol idk.
PLOT ADDICTS - because gurms and I have too many lol too many?? No such thing!! Fairuza and Fairion would sooo be effected. You know how we planned that he denies her and like fights off all the sexual tension in the laundry matt? Maybe afterwards, since he sees Izzy's death, a girl he was once in love with and realizes he regrets just never having enough time with her, so he goes to Fairuza and just goes up to her says, "I'm going to kiss you." And she's like huh? and then he kisses her and they end up hooking up that night and not the rough sexual tension relief kind of way but a softer, I just need you kind of way and Idk, could be cute. And then the next morning or something, she acts what that was all about and he tells her? and Idk what would happen but yeah... *brain poof* Yay for Jasper, we already have an idea for him and Widow so that's yay<3 And while I think the idea of Jasper coming to Valkyrie for Widow after hearing about Izzy's death, she doesn't die for a while lol. Like it's not happening or a month or two, v-side time so... lol. Unless he's not coming for a long time, I don't know if it would work like that. I think all the Sirens but Orion and Widow, no matter when he arrives will be a little untrusting of his presence. Maybe he ends up coming because he knows Widow and he knows that she would only stay in this town if she had good reason to and the only real reason is that if Liz's alive and Wid wants to put a lid on the situation or something and as a Richardson he kind of has wandering privileges so he comes down to check as well as an excuse to be around Widow again.
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Post by Magdelena "Maggie" Corinthos on Jul 18, 2009 7:39:04 GMT -6
i know how tough it is, i'm still torn to pieces about camilla so trust me when i say i know what you're going through.
maggie would totally be tweaked about him getting rid of everything, she'd probably through an iphone at him and say "get to work." lmao. she's not all that tactful, i'll admit.
and that'll really change things between wid and j.r. if that happens. he'll get a lot more protective over her, insisting she stay with them and stuff like that. maybe something could spur from that, idk that's up to you, but i think it'd be cute.
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Post by Nina Suresh on Jul 18, 2009 21:50:16 GMT -6
okay, okay, i know i'm coming in extremely late for which i apologise but i'm here now with my short opinion (:
so first off, reading how she is going to die made me feel so sad! but at least she has a sort of heroic death, refusing to give in and give away her cousin. for that i respect her a lot but i really will miss izzy! i never really rped with her but she was always so happy that i couldn't help smiling when reading your posts with izzy involved but i do understand why you're deleting her. it's hard to rp a character that you can't really connect with. i'm having the same problems right now as a matter of fact </3
now i've never really plotted with the sirens but its never too late to start? i do believe we were going to plot austyn and liz somehow though with the drag racing or something. the bad ass chicks who don't don the flag!girl bikinis haha. but if liz goes all suicidal austyn would probably get really scared. she likes to act tough but she's bad with really bad situations like that. i don't know, we could do something there. who else...well if widow starts becoming 'cheaper' she should definitely get to know aimee. aimee could be some sort of bad influence and also she knows someone who's died except it was johnny jones and widow had her own cousin die so clearly theres a massive difference but aimee would sort of understand what widow is going through and understand why she's reacting the way she is because aimee sort of does the same thing.
ok there was my short and extremely late input. and once again, aw poor izzy <33
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